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Region 6 Pollution Prevention Roundtable





Little Rock, Arkansas


September 7-8, 2004


















Report Prepared By:


Hilario Gamez,

Professional Business Advisor

Institute for Manufacturing and Materials Management


University of Texas at El Paso












































OVERVIEW                                                                                                                 2


OPENING REMARKS                                                                                                3


P2 ROUNDTABLE TIMELING REVIEW                                                                     3


SOUTHWEST NETWORK FOR ZERO WASTE                                                           6


STATE UPDATES                                                                                                       


  • TCEQ, presented by Grace Hsieh                                                                     11


  • LCRA, Mark Johnson                                                                                       11


  • Louisiana DEQ, Gary Johnson                                                                         11


  • TMAC, Hilario Gamez                                                                                      15


  • Oklahoma DEQ, Dianne Wilkins                                                                      15


  • Arkansas, Audree Miller                                                                                 16
  • NMED, Michelle Vattano, Erin Murphy                                                                        16


  • WERC, Chris Campbell                                                                                    17




APPENDIX A:    LIST OF PARTICIPANTS                                                                20


APPENDIX B:    AGENDA                                                                                        21
















The Roundtable meeting was hosted by the Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality. Roundtable participants will also attended the Arkansas Watershed Advisory Group’s 2004 conference, “Clean Water – Stronger Communities”.

Sandi Formica opened the meeting and welcomed the participants. She spoke about the challenges of instituting a P2 program and the misperceptions from various media, enforcement and permitting programs. 

After that, Joy Campbell proceeded with introduction of participants and a summary of the previous meetings agreements. She spoke about the importance of the environmental indicators and the various kinds of reporting, stressing the need for a common way of reporting the improvements accomplished by different groups and organizations.

Thomas Vinson presented an update of the Pollution Prevention Resource Exchange activities and discussed the use of the P2 Planner, a tool for preparing a pollution prevention plan. He also talked about the topic hub integration on the website, and a case study database, which identified 32 new case studies.


The Texas Commission for Environmental Quality (TCEQ) was represented by Grace Hsieh, who made an eloquent presentation of the projects and accomplishments of the organization and answered questions related to EMS audits.

Representing the LCRA, Mark Johnson spoke about how the Colorado River Authority is working with school children to promote energy conservation education -simple things like turning off the lights at home can have a tremendous impact in saving the environment. The LCRA promotes the use of a powerhouse software for kids to use and learn about energy conservation.


Hilario Gamez -P2 Roundtable moderator, discussed the history of the Texas Manufacturing Assistance Center, a program that helps manufacturers in the state of Texas to improve their operation, reduce waste and become more profitable. He explained how reducing defect rate, a manufacturing company can  significantly increase its profitability.


All State representatives made their respective presentations. Dianne Wilkins of the ODEQ, spoke about the accomplishments of the Oklahoma Star Program and other ongoing activities such as the SAV’s – working with printing and packaging NESHAAP. Gary Johnson, who is retiring represented the state of Louisiana, and Audree Miller represented the ADEQ.


Chris Campbell presented the accomplishments of the NMSU-WERK, while Michelle Vattano and Erin Murphy representing the state of New Mexico spoke about the Green Zia and the development of outreach materials.

Joy Campbell closed the meeting with a summary of activities emphasizing the importance of partnership opportunities with organizations such as POTW’s and MEP’s. 

Opening Remarks

Sandi Formica, ADEQ


Sandi Formica, opened the meeting.  Her division is also hosting the Arkansas Watershed Advisory Group’s 2004 conference, “Clean Water – Stronger Communities”. that the roundtable members will be attending. 


One of the biggest challenges of instituting a P2 program is overcoming misperceptions from various media, enforcement and permitting programs.  After a rough start, the Arkansas P2 program began to take root. 


The P2 program has four meetings a year with the agency to educate staff on P2.  They are also making an agency EMS.  The purpose is to educate the agency, and then through their example move it out to sate agency (40,000 employees).  Audree Miller is working on a green purchasing program.  She is also working on hybrid vehicles. 


They are working to develop a stakeholder group to form relationships and partnerships because it will facilitate getting results.  Another challenge is the fact that staffing and funding has not been consistent.  As a result they have had to start/stop operations. 


Allen discussed the mercury P2 program.  Arkansas economic development commission used to lead the P2 efforts.  They used to have some entrances to businesses.  Diane Wilkinson reminded the roundtable of some joint conferences, site visits, etc.  


Members of the organization are thinking of how to incorporate compliance assistance. They are also looking for bringing in outside resources for compliance assistance.  They are seeking funding for outside resources.


Sandi emphasized that they wanted to create a consistent P2 program.  She promoted the watershed management program as one of the best tools for promoting P2. 



P2 Roundtable Timeline Review

Joy Campbell, EPA


At the last roundtable we had discussed:

1. Indicators

  1. Strategy for Region
  2. Partnerships (partnering with Manufacturing assistance centers)


EPA’s  National Strategic Plan:




Goal 5.2.2: P2 to Industry – The P2 grants that we get is tied to this goal.



We use indicators to show our success back to congress. The following  are a set of indicators:


Air Emissions Reduced

Hazwaste Reduced

Clean Water


Joy suggested adding the regulatory reduction. As a group we chose to use a P2 Based EMS as an umbrella


Programs that work under that are

  • H2E – well known and established program
  • Greening the supply chain – effects a broad range of businesses.  Major corporations are demanding it.
  • Greening the food chain (agriculture to FOG’s) -


We chose this strategy because these are established, and easy to transfer strategies.


Also, we have discussed piggybacking our next P2 conference with the April pretreatment/POTW meeting in Irving, Texas. 


Partnering opportunities, increasing funding: Packaging it so it can go back to congress.  


Measurement is key.  Measurement tool that should be able to capture data by state, then by region, then national.  This will allow us to get credit for the effectiveness of the work we are doing.


1.  RCC -  contact Mellisa Gayleon


Is also under goal 5, it covers most of the goals in our region.Congress gives money for Resource Conservation.  Had $700,000 for contract money that is undergoing review.  States and regions can apply.  Sent e-mails to state contacts.  Covers all hazardous and solid waste. 


2. OSWER innovations grant program for universities and non-profits.  Twice per year.  Mary Kemp is the lead.  Spring/Fall. State innovations environmental resource program (Baltimore, Mariland) automotive shops State Innovation.

Follow up:  get exact dates from Melissa.

3.  H2E under goal 4 of EPA strategic plan.


4. Regional Administrator/Regional Geographic Initiative a.k.a RA/RGI (discretionary funding) -  Typically given out as grants.  LCRA  had a proposal under this initiative to host a symposium to reduce mercury. Ex.  Mercury reduction in coal.  Potential link between Louisiana/LCRA.


December - March


5. Performance Partnership Grant 

RCRA for combustion, hazardous waste, enforcement

- State

- TCEQ partners with El Paso del Norte

– Line item for RCC

Every fiscal year. It should be coming out soon.



6. Dianne mentioned “State Innovations/Environmental Results program” -  Primary for innovations in permitting, but wrapped in P2 and EJ.    Contact “Reggie?”


7. PPG (Pollution Prevention Grant, but informally called PPIS)

  • Grant for states, require a 50% match. 
  • State agencies, universities can apply for it.


476,000 per year


Coming out sometime between December and March


8. Set aside grants (aka Source Reduction Grants) – for non-profits/universities.  Require at least 5% match.  Get about $146,000

Come out Dec.-March  about the same time as PPG.


-         This money is “EPM money”  it can get cut very quickly.  It gets swept.

These need to go quickly, so they can’t get awarded. 


PBT – advertised nationally.

Air Toxics, P2 program, air toxics reduction projects.  665-6763. TRI, PBT for states.


Roundtable discussion:

Mercury is getting the most attention.  Dianne suggested we think of other air toxics




Joy suggested that we have “projects in the box”.  Have a one page outline of potential projects, with a good title, and a one page explanation. 


For Example:  Municipalities – pretreatment, intro into establishing a city EMS.  Focus on POTW. 

Ex. 2 – Indoor air quality for daycares.


Other Ideas:


SEP’s – Supplemental Environmental  Projects (Dr. Jerrold Carney) Chemicals inventory in the schools. Violating companies.


Small Scale Chemistry for Schools -  P2, EMS, resource exchange, Resource conservation.  Credit for state. 


Follow up:  SEP’s to Jerry Kotas with DOE has some good case studies of using SEP’s to reduce energy usage. 


Kinds of SEP’s.  Can be offered by agency or facilty. 


Two ways to get a project funded by SEP

-         Get the enforcement officer.

-         Legal/Lawyers barriers.

-         P2 and pollution reduction categories.


For instance MOP for SEP. 


Follow up: Dianne, got the MOPP van funded under SEP.  (Grace – Tamara got it funded) for metal finishers. 





Southwest Network for Zero Waste

Presented by Thomas Vinson


This presentation gave a summary of the Southwest Network for Zero Waste


















































Nurtured World  - Presentation by Thomas Vinson-Peng


This slide presentation was made by Thomas Vinson for Susan Roothaan










Texas TCEQ,  Grace Hsieh


Grace provided an update of the P2 activities at TCEQ. Referred to website www.BorderP2.org

She explained the process of EMS audits and answered questions about the subject. It is not clear if the audits are the same at the national level, that is, performance based audits.


LCRA Mark Johnson


The group is working with school kids educating them on energy conservation practices. There are several tools to save energy. Children get to understand that simple things like turning off the lights at home when not needed will conserve large amounts of energy. 

Energy conservation service providers: The utility agrees to sponsor a school providing one facilitator from LCRA to conduct exercises in the classroom.

Also an investigation guide is available as a checklist to measure electricity consumption, and the powerhouse software for kids to use and learn about conservation.

Schools participate and get their own energy audits.

It is recognized that energy conservation and air pollution are always overlooked.

For any questions on the subject, visit the LCRA website.




Louisiana DEQ, Gary Johson









































Nurtured World, Thomas Vinson-Peng for Susan Roothaan



TMAC, Hilario Gamez


In today’s competitive business environment, initiatives must justify themselves economically. Six Sigma has become popular because it delivers measurable, tangible economic benefits.  Quality improvement leads to reduced costs, better customer satisfaction and improved profitability. Using as an example a manufacturing company, Hilario explained how the break-even point for the operations of a company can be a powerful indicator to show top management that reducing defects in the process, not only reduces waste but significantly enhances the profitability of the organization while improving the environment.



Oklahoma DEQ, Dianne Wilkins


  1. “Waste Not” a half page article in the OKC Business News -  Dianne quit sending mailouts because the information went to the environmental department, and not to the manufacturing specialists.  So, by getting article to the businessmen, she is raising awareness within the required group
  2. Dianne received an invitation to speak at EFO board – Environmental Federation of Oklahoma
  3. Oklahoma Start Program - 
    1. Smaller companies were overwhelmed when she tried to explain too much about Baldridge and related subjects. Doing the OKC (Oklahoma Star Program) allowed people to get a star each time they advanced. 
    2. University of Oklahoma  and National Standard are looking at starting an EMS (highest level of OKStar program)
    3. First star given to Natural Evelotion -  A company that disassembles computers and sells the parts on EBAY for profit.
  4. Sustainability – working with a variety of partners on sustainability.  Wants to get Nurtured world to speak at OK sustainability Network
  5. Ongoing activitieis
    1. SAV’s -  working with printing and packaging NESHAAP.  If a performance Track, the NESHAP is different.  Inspectors threatened
    2. FOG – half day sessions 9-12 and 6-9 for the food service.  She tailors the level of complexity to fit the audience
    3. H2E


Upcoming events:


  1. MSWG Quarterly Meeting in OK City
  2. How to inventory get on website

·        First star given to Natural Evelotion - 

1.      Follow up:  Dianne will get case study with measurable results.

·        Fiber reinforced plastics.  NESHAAP coming up, opened up the door.  Styrene NESHAAP giving them a problem.

·        Get inventory manual



Arkansas DEQ, Audree Miller



Audree is working to develop an ADEQ EMS.  They are ranking aspects and impacts.  Implementation plan due end of this month.


Working to develop a P2 stakeholder group.  NRCS, wildlife Federation and Arkansas Development. Have not defined if it would be advisory, or taking on projects. 


Audree does 75% of her time with P2, and she is helped by Allen Gilliam for some administration activities.


Expect to have a two year implementation schedule for the agency.


Working on a materials exchange website based on Texas database and ZeroWaste Network software.  Will be supported by staffer in solid waste program.


Planning 3 H2E


Follow up:  Needs help with stakeholder group.  New Mexico (Chris, Michelle and Erin)


Bring in three speakers per year to raise awareness of P2 in the agency.


Allen Gilliam  - Under the pretreatment program am pursuing the dental facilities with BMP’s.  Sent survey to local municipalities to find out what dentists are doing with amalgam. 


NMED, Michelle Vattano, Erin Murphy


Green Zia is looking at ways to make the program less cumbersome for small business.


Erin has compiled information obtained from the applications.


Will be releasing two manuals for training tribal/pueblos.  Had contributions from tribes/pueblos at eight meetings.  Now they are an assistance call line.


Erin -  Small Business Recognition


Wanted to develop outreach materials


Also want to leverage the departments within their agency (“inreach”).


Met with SBDC’s and they will put info. In their packet for Green Zia.


September 20th.  Kick Off event

Payroll stuffers for over 20,000 employees promoting P2 and offering our services. 

Working with Maquiladoras to encourage EMS

Thinking of an NEPT MOA for NEPT.  Cabinat secretary likes the idea of Green Zia standing alone. 


WERC, Chris Campbell























Closing, Joy Campbell, EPA


Joy emphasized

  1. Before each call get your items to Thomas
    1. Third Thursday of every month
    2. Call in number is always required
  2. Get the events to Thomas for the website, cc: joy  As a start on newsletter.
  3. Before conference call send your items to Thomas
  4. Partnership opportunities.  She really believed that we need to have a roundtable partnering with POTW’s.  Then one with MEP’s.  Watershed conferences.  Nurtured World.
  5. Following up on items:
    1. Have a one pager with what you want, and how things sit under it.
    2. Roundtable to prioritize
    3. Need a one pager with vision, goals and milestone!

                                                              i.      Explain the purpose

                                                            ii.      Explain activities

                                                          iii.      Where we are in the progress should be available

    1. Measurement

                                                              i.      Show accomplishments

                                                            ii.      We have nothing, went to….

    1. Next roundtable

                                                              i.      Have report on one pager…each program reports progress

                                                            ii.      Use one pager as an advertisement

  1. Thank you Hilario
    1. He has run the roundtable, helped with transition to new center
    2. Hilario will be a powerful partner for the future.
  2. Future Meetings
    1. We agreed to investigate how air fair would be reimbursed, and roundtable funded.
    2. We agreed that we could have one meeting in Dallas, then one in the regional states. 
    3. Special thanks to Gary who is our senor member who is now retiring.   Dianne will now be the ranking member on the roundtable.


This report was prepared using the notes and presentations compiled by several P2 Rountable participants.

Meeting adjourned at 5:00PM on Wednesday, September 8, 2004.


















Sandi Formica

Arkansas DEQ - Environmental Preservation Division

8001 National Dr.

Little Rock AR 72209

(501) 682-0020. 

Email:  formica@adeq.state.ar.us 


Gary Johnson
Louisiana DEQ
P.O. Box 82135
Baton Rouge, LA 70884-2135
Phone: (225) 765-0284
Email: gary_j@deq.state.la.us


Christopher Campbell
WERC Pollution Prevention Technical Resources Center

1155 University Blvd. SE
Albuquerque, NM 87106

Phone: (505) 843-4251

Fax: (505) 246-2891
Email: chrisc@werc.net


Dianne Wilkins
Oklahoma DEQ
P.O. Box 1677
Oklahoma City, OK 73101-1677
Phone: (405) 702-9128
Fax: (405) 702-9101
Email: Dianne.Wilkins@deqmail.state.ok.us



Mark Johnson
Lower Colorado River Authority
P.O. Box 220 M200
Austin, TX 78767
Phone: (512) 473-3200 ext. 2868
Fax: (512) 478-4026
Email: Mark.Johnson@lcra.org



Joy Campbell
US EPA Region 6
1445 Ross Avenue
(Suite 1200, 6EN-XP)
Dallas, TX 75202
Phone: (214) 665-8036
Fax: (214) 665-7446
Email: Campbell.joy@epamail.epa.gov



Hilario Gamez
Southwest Pollution Prevention Center-IM3
500 W. University - Engineering M105-C
El Paso, TX 79902
Phone: (915) 747-6273
Fax: (915) 747-5437
Email: hgamez@utep.edu


Michelle Vattano
New Mexico Environment Department
1190 St. Francis Drive
Santa Fe, NM 87502-6110

Phone: (505) 827-2855
Fax: (505) 827-2836
Email: michelle_vattano@nmenv.state.nm.us


Erin Murphy
New Mexico Environment Department
1190 St. Francis Drive
Santa Fe, NM 87502-6110

Phone: (505) 827-2855
Fax: (505) 827-2836


Audree Miller

Arkansas DEQ

Phone: (501)682-0015





Thomas Vinson-Peng

Southwest Network for Zero Waste
University of Texas
10100 Burnet Rd.  CEER-R 7100
Austin, TX 78758
Phone: 512/232-7149
Fax: 512/471-1720



Grace Hsieh

Program Specialist


Phone: 512/239-1408

Fax: 512/239-3165



Region VI Pollution Prevention Roundtable Meeting



Tuesday, Sept. 7, 2004


2:00 P.M.       Greetings and Introductions                                     Audree Miller


2:15 P.M.       The History of P2 at ADEQ                                                  Sandi Formica


2:45 P.M.       Summary of Spring 2004 Roundtable Meeting                 Joy Campbell Agreements/Action items


3:15 P.M.       Update from P2Rx                                                                Thomas Vinson

Goal timeline for the next 2-3 years


3:45 P.M.       A Nurtured World                                                                  Thomas Vinson

P2-based EMS training for the states                              


4:15 P.M.       BREAK


4:30 P.M.       Partnering Opportunities                                                      Joy Campbell

Increasing chances of funding


5:00 P.M.       Upcoming Funding Opportunities & Timelines                  Joy Campbell


5:30 P.M.       Framework for our P2 Roundtable                          Hilario Gamez



6:00 P.M.       First day meeting adjourned











Region VI Pollution Prevention Roundtable Meeting

Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality

Building G - Training Room

September 7 - 8, 2004



Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2004


9:30  A.M.      Greetings and Introductions                                     Audree Miller


9:40   A.M.     Updates from the States                                                      Hilario Gamez


9:45   A.M.     TCEQ                                                                                     Grace Hsieh


10:15 A.M.     LCRA                                                                                     Mark Johnson


10:45 A.M.     UTEP-TMAC                                                                         Hilario Gamez


11:15 A.M.     Break                                                                                     


11:30 A.M.     Working Lunch

                        Film:  Water Warning - It’s Not Just the Drought


12:30 P.M.     ODEQ                                                                                                Dianne Wilkins


1:00 P.M.       LDEQ                                                                                     Gary Johnson


1:30 P.M.       ADEQ                                                                                     Audree Miller


2:00 P.M.       NMED                                                                                                Michelle Vattano


2:30 P.M.       Break


2:45 P.M.       NMSU-WERC                                                                       Chris Campbell


3:15 P.M.       Meeting Wrap-up                                                                  Joy Campbell


5:00 P.M.       Meeting Adjourned